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		<title>By: Who are you to claim authority!?</title>
		<link>http://www.mindthebeginner.net/2009/05/truely-learning-or-just-reinforcing-current-beliefs/#comment-7507</link>
		<dc:creator>Who are you to claim authority!?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] information that we already know. Just to reinforce that we are on the right path and that&#8217;s not exactly learning. Identifying dregs is easy, extracting the clear liquid is harder and hardest of all is creating [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] information that we already know. Just to reinforce that we are on the right path and that&#8217;s not exactly learning. Identifying dregs is easy, extracting the clear liquid is harder and hardest of all is creating [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.mindthebeginner.net/2009/05/truely-learning-or-just-reinforcing-current-beliefs/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never have thought about this before. It&#039;s really true that we often &quot;learn&quot; things we already know and that our &quot;leaders&quot; define what we see as true or false, not ourselves through experience.

I knew that experience is crucial - and thats why action is too - but I never imagined that our wrong learning behavior would affect us in such ways..

thank your for thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never have thought about this before. It&#8217;s really true that we often &#8220;learn&#8221; things we already know and that our &#8220;leaders&#8221; define what we see as true or false, not ourselves through experience.</p>
<p>I knew that experience is crucial &#8211; and thats why action is too &#8211; but I never imagined that our wrong learning behavior would affect us in such ways..</p>
<p>thank your for thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiaan</title>
		<link>http://www.mindthebeginner.net/2009/05/truely-learning-or-just-reinforcing-current-beliefs/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Christiaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true that we believe we don&#039;t have all that time to experience things for ourselves and thusly have to accept what other people offer us as the truth. However, this truth that they offer might not be reality, only their interpretation of it through their filter.

It&#039;s perfectly okay to accept these truths, but only accept them for what they are: The truth&lt;strong&gt; according to the other guy.&lt;/strong&gt;

This is where urban legends come from. We hear something, and accept it without ever checking the facts. Like the myth that you&#039;ll catch a cold if you don&#039;t dress yourself warm enough on a cold day. The common cold (and the flu) are both viruses. You won&#039;t get them just because you are cold. You get them from other people, and what do we do in the winter? We huddle up, and close all the windows. No air circulation and lot&#039;s of people in a room. You couldn&#039;t make a virus more happy.

In &quot;things you can do with the body&quot; (dancing, martial arts, playing an instrument) accepting someones truth isn&#039;t good enough. You will never master what you are learning without experiencing it for yourself.

What&#039;s more, either it&#039;s wrong, or right. &lt;strong&gt;There is no &quot;almost got it&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; in throwing a punch. Either you do it the right way, or it&#039;s not a punch. It&#039;s here that we often lie to ourselves and tell ourselves that we almost have it. So we repeat the &quot;almost right&quot; (read: wrong) punch over and over again. Training ourselves to perform that wrong punch. if it didn&#039;t work, scrap it and begin anew.

If you don&#039;t scrap it you&#039;ll end up creating another filter. &quot;it should look something like this&quot; You keep working with the one that went wrong.

All in it&#039;s a hard concept to truly convey through writing. I think Peter had done a better job of it than I ever can. If you want more reading on the subject might I suggest you picking up one of these two books by Peter:

Principles of effortless power
Ancient wisdom, new spirit

&quot;Principles&quot; is centered around his martial art, &quot;spirit&quot; is more about the mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that we believe we don&#8217;t have all that time to experience things for ourselves and thusly have to accept what other people offer us as the truth. However, this truth that they offer might not be reality, only their interpretation of it through their filter.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s perfectly okay to accept these truths, but only accept them for what they are: The truth<strong> according to the other guy.</strong></p>
<p>This is where urban legends come from. We hear something, and accept it without ever checking the facts. Like the myth that you&#8217;ll catch a cold if you don&#8217;t dress yourself warm enough on a cold day. The common cold (and the flu) are both viruses. You won&#8217;t get them just because you are cold. You get them from other people, and what do we do in the winter? We huddle up, and close all the windows. No air circulation and lot&#8217;s of people in a room. You couldn&#8217;t make a virus more happy.</p>
<p>In &#8220;things you can do with the body&#8221; (dancing, martial arts, playing an instrument) accepting someones truth isn&#8217;t good enough. You will never master what you are learning without experiencing it for yourself.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, either it&#8217;s wrong, or right. <strong>There is no &#8220;almost got it&#8221;</strong> in throwing a punch. Either you do it the right way, or it&#8217;s not a punch. It&#8217;s here that we often lie to ourselves and tell ourselves that we almost have it. So we repeat the &#8220;almost right&#8221; (read: wrong) punch over and over again. Training ourselves to perform that wrong punch. if it didn&#8217;t work, scrap it and begin anew.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t scrap it you&#8217;ll end up creating another filter. &#8220;it should look something like this&#8221; You keep working with the one that went wrong.</p>
<p>All in it&#8217;s a hard concept to truly convey through writing. I think Peter had done a better job of it than I ever can. If you want more reading on the subject might I suggest you picking up one of these two books by Peter:</p>
<p>Principles of effortless power<br />
Ancient wisdom, new spirit</p>
<p>&#8220;Principles&#8221; is centered around his martial art, &#8220;spirit&#8221; is more about the mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason R Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason R Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How then do you suggest we go about learning, obviously we don&#039;t have the time to do all the experiments ourselves.  I often take the time to examine the other side of the coin and attempt to prove it but I find my self building straw men in many cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How then do you suggest we go about learning, obviously we don&#8217;t have the time to do all the experiments ourselves.  I often take the time to examine the other side of the coin and attempt to prove it but I find my self building straw men in many cases.</p>
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